Episodes

Monday Nov 15, 2021
#88 - Strength & Song (Ex. 14:1-15:21)
Monday Nov 15, 2021
Monday Nov 15, 2021
In our sixth episode in the book of Exodus, we chat about Ex. 14:1-15:21 as Yahweh triumphs over the Egyptians and then Israel sings in response to God delivering His people.
Today’s conversation:
- Geography at the beginning of ch. 14
- The exodus as a founding story for Israel
- Yahweh reiterating His purpose in the exodus event
- Israel’s complaining, looking forward and backward in the story
- God as Deliverer & the hope/confidence available to us
- The angel of the Lord & the fire: markers on the narrative
- Death by water: a reversal
- Singing as a regular practice for God’s people
- The attributes of God in the song
- Yahweh as God of the generations
- God’s anger against evil is inherent to His majesty (Douglas Stuart)
- The “gods” — what should we think of that? For more on a view that Michael briefly explains, see this short video from the BibleProject or Michael Heiser’s book The Unseen Realm
- The importance of the nations referenced in the song
- Miriam & the song
Join us this season for a journey through Exodus (every Monday) and incredible interview guests (every other Thursday).
Helpful Resources on Exodus:
- Exodus commentary by Douglas Stuart (intermediate/advanced)
- Exodus For You commentary by Tim Chester (devotional/introductory)
- Exodus commentary by Peter Enns (intermediate)
- The God Who Makes Himself Known: The Missionary Heart of the Book of Exodus (W. Ross Blackburn) — see episode #70 for our interview w/ Dr. Blackburn!
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Thursday Nov 11, 2021
#87 - The Book of Revelation w/ Dr. Tom Schreiner
Thursday Nov 11, 2021
Thursday Nov 11, 2021
Today’s interview is with Dr. Tom Schreiner, the James Buchanan Harrison Professor of New Testament Interpretation and Professor of Biblical Theology at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky. Dr. Schreiner has written a ton of books, including several we love, including his Romans commentary and biblical theology. While Dr. Schreiner has done lots of work in Paul’s letters and elsewhere in the NT, we talk to him about the book of Revelation! He has already written a short commentary on Revelation and has a forthcoming book on the topic—but he is working on a longer commentary on Revelation as well. Here we talk about:
- The central theme of the book of Revelation
- The biggest mistakes people make when they come to read Revelation
- The most important Old Testament books for understanding Revelation
- Some of the hiccups with reading the book “literally”
- Reading the symbols & numbers in Revelation: 7; 12; 144,000
- Revelation as apocalyptic & prophecy
- How Satan parodies God, such as with the “false trinity”
- How Satan deceives today
- Schreiner’s process for writing commentaries
- If God could give Dr. Schreiner one clarification on the book of Revelation, what would it be?
- New creation millennialism
Terms/Ideas Referenced:
- Amillennialism: the 1,000 years of Rev. 20 are symbolic of right now, the “church age,” and at the end of this symbolic millennium, Jesus’ second coming will occur—in sum, the millennium has been realized and we live in it now
- Premillennialism: Christ’s second coming is before ('pre') the millennium; then Jesus will reign on the earth for a 1,000-yr. period (typically, but not always, a literal 1,000 yrs. in this view)
- Historic premillennialism: “historic” because many early in the church held this view—Jesus returns prior to a millennium on the earth, but after any period of “tribulation” in the present or future ("posttribulational")
- Dispensational premillennialism: still premillennial, but often with the emphasis on a future (usually 7-yr.) tribulation and also emphasizing God having future plans for Israel not fulfilled in the church (a "pretribulational" rapture of the church in this view)
- New creation millennialism: in another’s words, “the thousand years of Revelation 20:1-10 begins at the glorious, world-shattering coming of Jesus Christ and has the new creation as its setting”
Recommended Resources from Dr. Schreiner
- 40 Questions About the End Times (Schnabel)
- Beale’s shorter commentary
- Jim Hamilton’s commentary
- The Triumph of the Lamb (Johnson)
- Stephen Smalley’s commentary
- Koester’s commentary
- Breaking the Code (Metzger)
- Anything by John Frame
Other Radically Normal interviews:
- On Tour w/ Caroline Cobb (#84)
- Union with Christ w/ Kyle Worley (#81)
- Trading Hustle and Hurry for the Goodness of Limits w/ Dr. Ashley Hales (#76)
- The Importance of Deuteronomy w/ Dr. Kyong-Jin Lee (#73)
- The Missionary Heart of the Book of Exodus w/ Dr. W. Ross Blackburn (#70)
- The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self w/ Dr. Carl Trueman (#67)
- Religious Liberty for All w/ Dr. Andrew Walker (#64)
- Freedom from Sin w/ John Elmore (#61)
- God’s Glory Above the Clouds w/ Captain Dan Griffin (#53)
- Hebrews 11 & Working to God’s Glory w/ Trillia Newbell (#38)
- Courage, Integrity & the Future w/ Dr. Russell Moore (#32)
- Apologetics & Theology w/ Dr. Gavin Ortlund (#26)
- The Ascension of Christ w/ Dr. Patrick Schreiner (#23)
- Interview w/ Pastor Tommy Nelson (#14)
- Interview w/ College Pastor Nate Hilgenkamp (#12)
- Interview w/ OU Baseball Coach Britt Bonneau (#4)
Radically Normal YouTube // IG: @radicallynormalpod // Email: radicallynormalpod@gmail.com // Send us prayer requests or Q&A questions for the end of season 4!

Monday Nov 08, 2021
#86 - Wedding, Feasts, the Exodus (Ex. 11-13)
Monday Nov 08, 2021
Monday Nov 08, 2021
In our fifth episode in the book of Exodus, we chat about Ex. 11-13 as the plagues conclude and God institutes feasts and practices for His people.
Today’s conversation:
- The threat & playing out of the final plague
- Yahweh: set apart; Israel: set apart
- Allegiance: there’s only two sides
- Who is crying out now? From 3:7 to 11:6
- The key word: “remember”
- Passover, Feast of Booths, Pentecost
- Feast of Unleavened Bread
- The Lord’s Supper today as a Passover meal
- Learning church history as an act of remembrance
- The exodus
- Connections between Exodus & Revelation: the mark of the beast vs. how God marks His people
- The bones of Joseph
- The pillars of cloud & fire
Join us this season for a journey through Exodus (every Monday) and some incredible interview guests (every other Thursday).
Helpful Resources on Exodus:
- Exodus commentary by Douglas Stuart (intermediate/advanced)
- Exodus For You commentary by Tim Chester (devotional/introductory)
- Exodus commentary by Peter Enns (intermediate)
- The God Who Makes Himself Known: The Missionary Heart of the Book of Exodus (W. Ross Blackburn) — see episode #70 for our interview w/ Dr. Blackburn!
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Monday Nov 01, 2021
#85 - Creation in Reverse—the Plagues (Ex. 7-10)
Monday Nov 01, 2021
Monday Nov 01, 2021
In our fourth episode in the book of Exodus, we chat about Ex. 7-10—the highest amount of chapters we’ve ever covered in a single Radically Normal episode!
Today’s conversation:
- The significance of “the Egyptians shall know that I am the Lord”
- A different, helpful view of miracles in Exodus & the Gospels
- Creation & de-creation themes in Exodus & Revelation
- Patterns amongst the plagues
- God’s people set apart from Egypt
- The tables are turned: the Nile is now a problem for the Egyptians
- Connections between the Egyptians gods & the plagues
- Pharaoh’s false repentance—& how we’re the same with sin
- What does it mean that God hardened Pharaoh’s heart? (also see episode #35 for a deep dive on God’s sovereignty & predestination!)
- The importance of 9:14-16—what is the ultimate purpose of the plagues?
- The past helps God’s people walk in the present
- The breadth of the plagues
- Connections between the 9th plague & the Crucifixion
Join us this season for a journey through Exodus (every Monday) and some incredible interview guests (every other Thursday).
Helpful Resources on Exodus:
- Exodus commentary by Douglas Stuart (intermediate/advanced)
- Exodus For You commentary by Tim Chester (devotional/introductory)
- Exodus commentary by Peter Enns (intermediate)
- The God Who Makes Himself Known: The Missionary Heart of the Book of Exodus (W. Ross Blackburn) — see episode #70 for our interview w/ Dr. Blackburn!
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Thursday Oct 28, 2021
#84 - On Tour w/ Caroline Cobb
Thursday Oct 28, 2021
Thursday Oct 28, 2021
Today’s interview features our first artist on the podcast, and we had a blast. We talked to singer-songwriter Caroline Cobb, who just released a new album, A King & His Kindness—available wherever you listen to music. Caroline talks to us about:
- her new album
- how music helps up remember and rehearse God’s story
- her accomplished goal of writing a song on every book of the Bible in one year (!)
- worshipping with a joyful heart while discerning for biblical lyrics
- emotion in worship
- how music uniquely shapes us as God’s people
…and more! We loved talking to Caroline and hope you also enjoy the interview. For more, check out her site at carolinecobb.com.
Recommended Resources from Caroline:
- Dane Ortlund, Gentle and Lowly: The Heart of Christ for Sinners and Sufferers
- Resources/music from Andrew Peterson and Sandra McCracken
Other Radically Normal interviews:
- Union with Christ w/ Kyle Worley (#82)
- Trading Hustle and Hurry for the Goodness of Limits w/ Dr. Ashley Hales (#76)
- The Importance of Deuteronomy w/ Dr. Kyong-Jin Lee (#73)
- The Missionary Heart of the Book of Exodus w/ Dr. W. Ross Blackburn (#70)
- The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self w/ Dr. Carl Trueman (#67)
- Religious Liberty for All w/ Dr. Andrew Walker (#64)
- Freedom from Sin w/ John Elmore (#61)
- God’s Glory Above the Clouds w/ Captain Dan Griffin (#53)
- Hebrews 11 & Working to God’s Glory w/ Trillia Newbell (#38)
- Courage, Integrity & the Future w/ Dr. Russell Moore (#32)
- Apologetics & Theology w/ Dr. Gavin Ortlund (#26)
- The Ascension of Christ w/ Dr. Patrick Schreiner (#23)
- Interview w/ Pastor Tommy Nelson (#14)
- Interview w/ College Pastor Nate Hilgenkamp (#12)
- Interview w/ OU Baseball Coach Britt Bonneau (#4)
Radically Normal YouTube // IG: @radicallynormalpod // Email: radicallynormalpod@gmail.com // Send us prayer requests or Q&A questions for the end of season 4!

Monday Oct 25, 2021
#83 - Yahweh vs. the Seed of the Serpent (Ex. 5-6)
Monday Oct 25, 2021
Monday Oct 25, 2021
In our third episode in the book of Exodus, we chat about Ex. 5-6. If you make your way to the end of the episode, here’s an update: Andrei is not currently 3-0 in fantasy football. He is 4-2, and he is in third place in the league.
Today’s conversation:
- Pharaoh’s response to the words of God through Aaron and Moses
- Properly thinking about the popular “let my people go” phrase
- “I am the Lord” in the rest of the book of Exodus
- An even harder work burden on the Israelites
- Rivalry between two authorities: God and Pharaoh—a theme throughout Scripture; the seed of the serpent
- Who will Israel “serve”?
- God’s way to comfort: a reminder of Israel’s past—the forefathers
- Another theme for the entire Bible: the kinsman-redeemer
- What does it mean that God did not make Himself known to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob by His name (6:3)?
- The Lord is the One who delivers
- An important genealogy (and Douglas Stuart’s 7 purposes)
Join us this season for a journey through Exodus (every Monday) and some incredible interview guests (every other Thursday).
Helpful Resources on Exodus:
- Exodus commentary by Douglas Stuart (intermediate/advanced)
- Exodus For You commentary by Tim Chester (devotional/introductory)
- Exodus commentary by Peter Enns (intermediate)
- The God Who Makes Himself Known: The Missionary Heart of the Book of Exodus (W. Ross Blackburn) — see episode #70 for our interview w/ Dr. Blackburn!
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Monday Oct 18, 2021
Monday Oct 18, 2021
In our second episode in the book of Exodus, we chat about Ex. 3-4:
- The story of the burning bush: the holiness of God & the significance of the fire
- The transcendence & immanence of God
- Moses’ many doubts
- God’s way of reassurance: His presence
- “I Am Who I Am” & covenantal language
- The staff & the serpent
- Connections to Genesis & Leviticus
- Aaron joins the party
- An early look at Pharaoh’s heart & the plagues
- Israel as the firstborn son: Israel as a new Adam & Jesus as the true firstborn
- The oddest part of the entire book? 4:24-26
Join us this season for a journey through Exodus (every Monday) and some incredible interview guests (every other Thursday).
Helpful Resources on Exodus:
- Exodus commentary by Douglas Stuart (intermediate/advanced)
- Exodus For You commentary by Tim Chester (devotional/introductory)
- Exodus commentary by Peter Enns (intermediate)
- The God Who Makes Himself Known: The Missionary Heart of the Book of Exodus (W. Ross Blackburn) — see episode #70 for our interview w/ Dr. Blackburn!
Radically Normal YouTube // IG: @radicallynormalpod // Email: radicallynormalpod@gmail.com

Thursday Oct 14, 2021
#81 - Union with Christ w/ Kyle Worley
Thursday Oct 14, 2021
Thursday Oct 14, 2021
“Union with Christ, our participation in Christ, means that we have been given a new identity that doesn’t just save us from what was. It invites us into what could be. It becomes the grounds of our sanctification and our pursuit of holiness.”
Today’s interview is with Kyle Worley, Lead Pastor and Church Planter of Mosaic Church in Richardson, TX and co-host of the Knowing Faith podcast. He graciously talks to us about the doctrine of union with Christ, a foundational reality of the Christian life.
Union with Christ definitions:
- “The intimate, vital, and spiritual union between Christ and His people, in virtue of which He is the source of their life and strength, of their blessedness and salvation.” (Louis Berkhof)
- Kyle’s baseline definition: “Christians, God’s covenant people, are in Christ Jesus.”
Verses on this topic (in episode): Jn. 17; Rom. 5; 6:4-5; Gal. 2:20; Eph. 1:3-14; Heb. 10:14; also covenant language in the OT: Gen. 12; 15; 17; 22; Ex. 20-34; Deuteronomy; etc.
Recommended Resources from Kyle:
- Michael Reeves, Rejoicing in Christ
- John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion
- Herman Bavinck, Reformed Dogmatics
- Constantine Campbell, Paul and Union with Christ: An Exegetical and Theological Study
- Todd Billings, Union with Christ: Reframing Theology and Ministry for the Church
- Julie Canlis, Calvin’s Ladder: A Spiritual Theology of Ascent and Ascension
- Grant Macaskill, Union with Christ in the New Testament
- Grant Macaskill, Living in Union with Christ: Paul’s Gospel and Christian Moral Identity
Other Radically Normal interviews:
- Trading Hustle and Hurry for the Goodness of Limits w/ Dr. Ashley Hales (#76)
- The Importance of Deuteronomy w/ Dr. Kyong-Jin Lee (#73)
- The Missionary Heart of the Book of Exodus w/ Dr. W. Ross Blackburn (#70)
- The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self w/ Dr. Carl Trueman (#67)
- Religious Liberty for All w/ Dr. Andrew Walker (#64)
- Freedom from Sin w/ John Elmore (#61)
- God’s Glory Above the Clouds w/ Captain Dan Griffin (#53)
- Hebrews 11 & Working to God’s Glory w/ Trillia Newbell (#38)
- Courage, Integrity & the Future w/ Dr. Russell Moore (#32)
- Apologetics & Theology w/ Dr. Gavin Ortlund (#26)
- The Ascension of Christ w/ Dr. Patrick Schreiner (#23)
- Interview w/ Pastor Tommy Nelson (#14)
- Interview w/ College Pastor Nate Hilgenkamp (#12)
- Interview w/ OU Baseball Coach Britt Bonneau (#4)
Radically Normal YouTube // IG: @radicallynormalpod // Email: radicallynormalpod@gmail.com // Send us prayer requests or Q&A questions for the end of season 4!

Monday Oct 11, 2021
#80 - Season 4 Kickoff in the Book of Exodus (Ex. 1-2)
Monday Oct 11, 2021
Monday Oct 11, 2021
The beginning of season 4! In today’s episode we introduce the book of Exodus and discuss the first two chapters of the book:
- threads between Genesis and Exodus: it’s one story
- the fruitful multiplication of God’s people in Egypt
- Pharaoh who fears man and the midwives who fear God
- the saving of Moses’ life
- how Moses and Noah were both on an ark
- Moses growing up
- how Moses killing the Egyptian was not a sin
- Moses, Elijah, and Jesus all in the wilderness
- Moses’ life foreshadowing Israel’s story later in Exodus
- God’s covenant faithfulness
Join us this season for a journey through Exodus (every Monday) and some incredible interview guests (every other Thursday).
References
- Episode on Genesis w/ Rob Snyder — see episode #16
Helpful Resources on Exodus:
- Exodus commentary by Douglas Stuart (intermediate/advanced)
- Exodus For You commentary by Tim Chester (devotional/introductory)
- Exodus commentary by Peter Enns (intermediate)
- The God Who Makes Himself Known: The Missionary Heart of the Book of Exodus (W. Ross Blackburn) — see episode #70 for our interview w/ Dr. Blackburn!
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Monday Jul 05, 2021
#79 - What’s This About a Holy Kiss? (2 Cor. 13)
Monday Jul 05, 2021
Monday Jul 05, 2021
In this episode we discuss 2 Cor. 13 to wrap up season 3! Thank you for listening, and we look forward to being back to jump into the book of Exodus.
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